Citizen and Songwriter:
Interview with Citizen Cope
Citizen Cope makes music that simply cannot be labeled. Cope
is one of the most unique artists in music today because of his choice to
write about the people he meets and the characters he creates. Cope’s latest
release is “The Clarence Greenwood Recordings,” out now on RCA.
Do you have a favorite song off of your new album?
I really listen to it as a whole. Hopefully, it’s something that kind of
goes from one song to the next. I have different favorites at different times.
Each of them has their own special meaning to me.
You’ve been quoted as saying
that your songs are filled with characters. Are these characters
insipid by people within your own life?
Some songs, like “Pablo Picasso,” I just made up that, but I understood the
emotion. I was kind of relating to the emotion of it more so than the actual
character. There are really no rules in songwriting how I do it. It’s just
a method of putting your heart into something and drawing on the experiences
you’ve had in your life, people you’ve met and their experiences, the people
you’ve been close to. The love you’ve had and lost, the pain you’ve felt and
healed from; all those things that make up life.
What has been one of the hardest obstacles that you
have had to overcome in your life?
There were times in my life when I wasn’t aware of what my calling is. I
think that if you’re a creative person and you have something out there that
you’re supposed to be doing, and you’re not doing it that can be very difficult.
There’s been a lot of personal strife that I’ve dealt with. Everyone has a
story and everyone has things that drive them.
Do you have a favorite memory from childhood?
Just having a simple meal with people that you love.
Who in your life inspires you?
People that I’ve met in my life, on the street and in my family. There are
all different types of people that inspire you. The work of Martin Luther
King and Malcolm X inspires me.
Earlier, you were talking about
how you don’t follow a method in your songwriting. Do you
approach each song differently?
There’s a method in the sense that I’m just constantly doing it. You just
follow the muse and see where the song’s going to lead you.
You also do your own production,
was this album your first experience doing your own production?
No, I’ve produced before and it is just something I’ve wanted to take back
into my range. I decided to develop myself as a producer as well. I think
I have the best idea of where the music should go.
What was the first song you wrote for this album?
I think it was “Sideways.”
Did you write “Sideways” all at one time?
I think I was messing with the chords for a minute. I wrote “Son’s Gonna
Rise” around the same time. Songwriting is hard to explain. I can sit there
and try to explain it and in essence be full of shit. I don’t really understand
it myself sometimes. The questions you’re asking are very important. I’m glad
you’re asking these kinds of questions because it shows that you are listening
to the music as a listener and somebody who loves music. I can say I felt
inspired by this or learned this, but I think a lot of those things are in
retrospect after thinking what the song is about. After you’ve heard it 100
times, ‘OK, it’s about this…’ The emotion that you deal with I think people
relate to as personal. I think they relate to a connection I make with the
songs. I can say “Sideways” is about this girl, but me saying what it’s about
might completely change what you think the song is about. Something like that
is really an emotion, hopefully inherent, that I was able to touch on. Each
song has different things. “Son’s Gonna Rise”, I consider it to be a song
about rebirth and renewal. Making an analogy of an actual childbirth and the
birth of a day, within the context of me telling a story of me driving my
wife to the hospital when she’s pregnant. I’m not married and I don’t have
a kid. There are personal things in that about renewal and rebirth, life and
joy, and clarity.
If you could tour with any artist, who would it be?
I’d love to tour with Dead Prez, Lauren Hill or Ben Harper, Radiohead, Coldplay.
I’d love to tour with a lot of people. Nas, I’d like to play with him.
You recently toured with Robert Randolph...
Toured with Robert, that was a good tour.
Do you have a favorite memory from the tour?
I came out there and sang a Bob Marley tune with them, “Is This Love?' That
was a great memory from that tour. Did that a few nights.
Did you ever play with them backstage?
We worked that song out backstage. There was a lot of jamming, there’s certain
things that I know about it and certain things that I don’t. Those guys are
incredible players.
For more information on Citizen Cope, please check out his website: www.citizencope.com